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If you’ve been part of the Warren Light Center take a moment to leave a note below.

Take a few minutes to look around, then spread the word. Tell someone else to add their name in the reply section below..

We know a lot of the older alumni won’t have a computer. Heck, they may have a better way to communicate! Do us a favor though and tell them what you’ve seen. Maybe they will want to contribute something to keep the memory of those precious times alive.

We’re in the process of documenting the history of the Warren Light Center.

We recently updated the photo viewing technology to make it easier to view pictures and read scanned images.

If you have any photos, film, recordings, programs, or pamphlets from WLC and would like to contribute, please leave a reply below and we’ll get back to you and figure out the best way to get the material uploaded to share it with everyone.

There may be some duplication in categories such as pamphlets, but contact us any way, you might be the first to speak up and we’d love to hear from you!

Consider this is a chat area. Like Facebook or Twitter, but more private. If you have something to say, something to ask for, or reply to – put it here. Keep it polite and simple and you’ll be able to say almost anything.

Have fun with it.

For now it’s wide open. Just like the kiosks of the 60’s, or the first computer bulletin boards built to work with phone systems.

If you’re interested in writing articles, or spreading the word, include that in the reply.


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  1. Hi, My name is Carol Keydash. I first learned of the WLC some time around 1986? 1987? when I was at a worship service at Shrine of the Healing Masters in Ashtabula. Bill Dye was the visiting Bishop. I saw a pamphlet for the Warren Light Center Summer Solstice Conference which piqued my interest. I attended that year and loved everything about it. I found a peace there amid the ‘hills of Franklin’ that helped fuel my internal growth.

  2. July 22, 2015

    Many years ago my wife and I often visited our relatives along Lanz Lane. Next to your property along the creek. In the fall during hunting season Dave Rosenberg, his son Bob and I would visit with Don and his wife. Sometime when I was hunting the hill above your site I could hear Don chanting. His voice traveled down the valley and up the hill. His chants were all part of what nature provided us.
    Now that I am retired and my wife has passed I find myself traveling about and visiting past places that provided comfort. I was sadened to see your property closed off. Like many things past, our relatives have also passed and their property sold off. My question to you now is, would you be interested in permitting me to set up a temporary camp inside your property? Leasing or renting the space would be acceptable.This would also provide a presence at the site and a comfort place for me to chill out. I now live in Cuyahoga Falls Ohio and you can reach me at the address above.


    1. Bill,

      Thank you so much for sharing your memories in such rich detail. I can imagine hearing Don chanting in the distance.It sounds positively inspiring.

      I have a picture in my mind of two or three hunters in the camp during the late 90’s. It would be fun to think one of them might have been you.

      Our site is separate from the original land owners, however I can forward your request to “a guy who knows a guy” and ask that you be contacted if they want.

      Good Luck,

      – Jeff

      P.S. To anyone who can help Bill: please leave a reply. If necessary we at the site can pass contact information via e-mail.

  3. Hi Jeff ,
    I was ordained by Warren Light Center & Church of Ageless Wisdom in 1997 and am wondering if anything is still going on at the Center. Who all is still working and how do I renew my membership for The WLCMA? is Rev. Terri Dorosch- Shupenko still with the Warren Light Center? I would LOVE to see WLC up and running again. There is a real need for the teachings and love we all shared. Often Rev. Bishop Bill J.Dye and I connect. Woul really like to Speak to Sierra,Terri or some of the group I knew. Blessings and thanks. My number is 1-814-663-5640 and I reside in Corry Pa area. .I do have several pictures of Bill while being ordained.

    1. Hello, Charlene. It’s good to hear from you.

      I don’t have any information on WLCMA or Terri.

      The land of the Warren Light Center itself is now closed to the public. You can see the locations of special places on maps which we’ve placed around this web site. It’s not the same, but can trigger powerful memories. Please look around the site and leave comments at the different pictures, if you want to share them.

      A number of us met a couple of years ago at one of Shirley Baum’s occasional gatherings nearby. Do you know her?

      Thanks for the message. Perhaps another of our visitors will be able to help you. As more people find out about the site and leave messages it becomes easier rebuild contact.

      – Jeff

      To All: Can anyone help Charlene?

  4. Hi again Jeff and hello Sally,
    It is unfortunate that there are no longer any events or that the center is no longer open to the public.
    Being a Chief in the Navy gives me a different slant on organizations and organizing events.
    Organizing is labor and time intensive and takes someone that can plan, market and execute an event.
    I have a feeling that eventually the Center will call and the person that is ready to take the reigns will show up and just like the movie “Field of Dreams” if you plan it they will come.

    Unfortunately the Metaphysical and Psychic field is not like it used to be…When I was involved many years ago it was for the fun of it and pure investigation…Now we have Mediums from New Jersey and others that are in it for the $$$. I know you have to cover expenses and that’s reality, but it can be done well, with stule and in the end everyone can have a great experience.
    Hopefully whatever happens will turn out well and is successful.
    Let me know what happens and what I can do.
    Yours in spirit…Yours in the Spirit of Karate…
    Shihan Donald Palko

  5. Jeff, so sorry that the Warren Light Center is no longer open to the public. My parents, Art and Irene Rucinski, along with Sol and Elaine Lewis began an organization called the Michigan Metaphysical Society, or MMS as it got to be known (it closed with the passing of Sol). Kathy Dowdy was a big part of teaching the truth and it was great to see pics of her. I will try to dig up some pictures of Sol lecturing. Irene worked with him at doing past life readings. All of them have passed on, but they had wonderful memories and great stories to be told at our meditation meetings of the higher learning they received at the Center. I wish I could have been part of the experience.

    1. I remember Sol and met his wife. I can’t remember if I met your parents. Perhaps as more people share stories memories will be jogged.

      The Michigan Metaphysical Society was often mentioned. I’d have liked to made it there.

      We’ll be happy to receive pictures you can share.


      – Jeff

  6. I remember visiting the Center and after saying hello to Don and Charlene Anderson, John and Ina Gallagher I would go into the center grounds. I would visit the landing site, guardian trees, pavilion, talk to Bill Dye if he was around get a drink from the spring tree and sit quietly in the arena and walk down to French Creek and marvel at how quite and peaceful the area was.

    I also remember reading Don Anderson’s explanation of APORCEE and hearing him chanting and singing each morning. We were always invited to sit and meditate in the APORCEE house. I remember talking to the Michigan Metaphysical Society Members and listening to the members of the Church of Ageless Wisdom. Though we always wondered when Bill Dye channeled the space aliens who were reportedly 30′ tall how they were fitting into the room as Bill was only around 5’8 and the room was only 8′ tall.

    I was wondering if anything is happening at the site anymore.

    Don Palko

    1. Don,

      Thanks for checking in. The original location of the Warren Light Center is closed to the public. There have been a couple of reunion-type gatherings that may lead to a second incarnation of WLC.I’ll pass your name along to the organizers and perhaps we’ll meet sometime this year.

      – Jeff

  7. My Name is Donald Palko,
    I retired in 2005 from the U.S. Navy after 24 years. I was involved with the Metaphysical Research Group (MRG) in the late 70’s and early 80’s. We were invited by Bill and Angie Dye to come out with Taumi Rust and the other members. We celebrated the Summer Solstice and participated in all the activities during the the event for a number of years.

    In 1980 I was asked to talk about Tai Chi at the Light Center and it was because of Bill Dye that I did my first reading. Participation in the Metaphysical Studies along with other actions in my life at the time, helped me get started in the Martial Arts that I have been involved in for 34 years. I currently hold a 6th Degree Black Belt in A.I.M.A. Shotokan Kararate-jitsu and use Tai Chi Chuan during my lessons. If you would like me to do a seminar or an activity that I could help with during the next Summer Solstice let me know. I also know a number of people that are vegan and may be interested in attending your event.

    Some of the other members of the MRG were: Taumi Rust (Deceased), Diane, Jack Linonis, Jimmy Jackson (Deseased), Pete Fedak, Jackie Fedak and myself.

    To contact me you can send me an email or check out my facebook site at:
    Anyone that remembers that period of time you can contact me at macenters@yahoo.com

  8. hi folks.
    a quote from the selected letters of Philip K Dick pretty well describes me too.
    ‘illuminating and embarrassing, brilliant and pathetic…’
    I fire walked at WLS with my son Sean.
    I gave a spoon bending class with Jeff.
    I desired to give an an
    alchemy class but the body wasn’t up to it. je regret.
    perhaps as the golden age progresses and we live in reverse like Merlin I will.

  9. Spent every summer from 1961-1972 here for every solstice and had a cabin and trailer there. A lot if winderful memories. Was there to visit Bill Dye just months before his death. So sad to hear it is no longer in use:( I am from Ohio but now live in Fla . Just recently I considered going to Franklin for an outing. Hard to imagine those beautiful grounds desolate and not thriving! No one would remember me but my mom n dad n siblings were very instrumental in WLC growth over many years. Will be fondly remembered. Debbie Macres Fiore

  10. I grew up from 5 yrs till 17 on WLC grounds every summer. Sue n Bill Macres were my parents and they tended the cook tent for solstice. We owned a trailer on the grounds. Lots of special memories if Biill n Angie n Ina n Bert Gallagher soooo long ago. Miss my childhood!

    1. Debbie,

      Thank you for finding us! We are hoping to find more people who were at the Warren Light Center and willing to help us remember been preserve the events that took place.

      if you wish to post in the articles, or have pictures to share please leave a message. And pass the word to other people who were there.


      – Jeff

  11. The Property loks as though there has been limited if any activity for years. The structures are falling down and the power lines have been cut, However, Every year someone Posts, NO HUNTING Signs on this area.

  12. Is the WLC On Creek Road in the Village of Niles in the City of Franklin in the County of Venango in the State of Pennsylvania ? Still in use, as of 2012. Who owns this property and how mant acres is it?

    1. Bryan,

      The property is no longer available for gatherings.

      Our site is dedicated to preserving the memory of the Warren Light Center as it was and to the continuation of it’s spirit.

      I do not have information as to how you can receive permission to visit the grounds. Perhaps someone else who is from that part of the country can answer your question.

      If you have any information you would like to add to the site, I’d be happy to help you make a post.


      – Jeff

      1. Thank you for your speedy response, I hope that anyone,someone OUTTHERE has information on this parcel of property and is able to supply some answers. The sign at the entrance is there and displays the name Warren Light Center. This Property has fallen into the Hands of WHO ?

  13. To All:

    Ron and I have been real busy of late.

    I’ve transcribed a few pages of hand-written channeling, though it’s going to take a while to edit them I may just scan them to make them available. There’s a lot related to the Aprocee and Al Law paintings a lot of people would like to see.

    Also, on the UnfoldingSeries site I’ve posted a couple of stories about ghosts and spirits for a bit of light reading as we approach All Hallows Eve. Please have a look. http://www.unfoldingseries.com/

    I plan on writing several more before the end of October and returning to my regular subjects.

    If anyone has a non-WLC encounter they want to share I’ll be happy to offer a guest post.

    ‘If you have a WLC spirit story, please leave a note here and I’ll contact you via e-mail to get it posted on this site.

    – Jeff

  14. Status:

    It’s taken longer than we would have liked to get the information we’ve collected posted on the website.

    Good news is that I’ve uncovered a few more pamphlets and Ron was able to talk to Charleen, learning valuable information.

    I now have a speech-to-text program that will help with the transcription of long documents.

    If anyone wants to contribute memories, please leave a note here and I’ll contact you by e-mail.

    Note: It’s best not to leave e-mail address or other contact information in public areas like this page. This is in order to keep the information from being misused


    – Jeff.

  15. For additional reading:

    I’ve recently completed a road trip into the deep south and had a chance to visit several friends. If you would like to read about the paranormal and spiritual experiences please visit http://www.unfoldingseries.com/

    Several posts are already up and there will be at least two more relating to the trip this week and the next.

    Would anyone be interested in posting similar stories here? If so, what should we call the area?

    If we set up a members forum, would anyone want to use it?

  16. hi havent been there in years. are they still doing the summer soltese or any other gatherings are people allowed on the grounds? I use to liik forward to it every summer it was a beautiful place and holds many wonderful memories. i especially loved the bond fire.
    Looking forward to hearing from you

  17. We now have posts online that you can view and comment on a number of the sites and landmarks from the Warren Light Center.

    Please take a minute to look at the legend page at

    Then, if you remember events or experiences you had at any of them, consider clicking on the links at the bottom to visit the post for that landmark, and share what you recall with the rest of us.

    As we continue to amass historical information we’ll roll some of the comments into the related posts and can list you as a contributor.


    – Jeff

  18. I just heard from a man named Aurthur Davis..he said he was grounds keeper at WLC (maybe) around 1976.
    Does anyone know Aurthur? His phone number is: 419-281-6217. If you remember him..he would enjoy
    hearing from you.

  19. Thanks to All That Attended The FIREWALK 2012
    WONDERFUL We all came away with different Memories. But All were Blessed by the Spirit of the FIREWALK. I am honored that you all supported our WARREN LIGHT CENTER II Summer Solstice. Thank once again LOVETRUTHUNDERSTANDING

  20. To All:

    Angel Vaow left a message in “The Call of History” section asking about Ina and permission to walk the ground. Can anyone with knowledge give her a reply?

    – Jeff

  21. Just recieved message on my cell from Dee Best.
    She sends her regards..however she will be in Chicago area
    the weekend of firewalk.
    She did not leave a phone number..does anyone have it?

  22. Ron, say hello to Charline on Friday when you visit with her..
    tell her we miss her and wish she could be with us.

  23. Hi Deb..so glad that we found you in time for you to join us at this special gathering of old(and new) friends.
    I look forward to seeing you on Sunday..and just so you know..in case you have the uncontrollable urge
    to join us at the firewalk(after work)..you are welcome to sneak in..turn your cell phone to “off” and wait
    until a ‘break’ to sit with us..or join us at the fire after dark at any time. See you soon..luv to Rick.

  24. Huggs to all. I’m debb burtnett. I used to waitress and live in the grounds. Nothing but good memories of WLC. I”M working on the 23 but will be there on the 24. Gentle thoughts to all. Debb and Rick

  25. I just had a long long wonderful conversation with Maryanne McClellan…she WANTS TO COME TO THE FIREWALK with her son David. She will let us know. Bill McClellan is in a wheel chair and on dialysis for 2 years.
    We all remember her wonderful singing of the Lord’s Prayer at Solstice. Maybe she will sing it for us as we go
    to sleep (after the firewalk) in ‘tent city’…(we are callling the camping area on Shirley’s heaven in the woods “tent city’.

  26. Hello,
    Just looked at the site for the first time since you placed the APORCEE information.
    You need to Spell out APORCEE name with the picture of the Commandar whos name makes up the word APORCEE.

    Some of the names matches. Do you know what/who each letter represented?

    Aleene Lady with a big red E Who has the spicked blue and black head piece. Persuke Lady with checkered scarf and hat holding the book Orion Lady holding the lanturn looking out the at the stars and space ships
    Roilon Lady with the red, blue, and black flowing scarf surrounding her body
    Carvu Lady with the blue scarf covering her mouth. Blue skin
    E ???
    E ???
    I am not sure if this is correct. Do you remember any of this?

    1. Shirley,

      ConiAnn and I cam in near the end of APROCEE. Don initiated us and wouldn’t tell us many of the specifics, preferring we go to the site and feel what we could. It was fairly weakened when we visited it.

      Ron came to it before us and may remember more.

      Let’s see if we can set aside a little time at the firewalk to map some of this out.

      – Jeff

    2. Thanks Shirley
      Now that you mention it I sort of remember how to do that – I believe that I only saw the complete set of painting once – and it was explained to us then – that was a long time ago.

  27. Thanks for the names Jeff..Perhaps you are speaking of Dee Best? The last I heard she moved
    to California..anyway I do not think she is in the PA area anymore. Bonnie & Merle were from a
    Metaphysical Group over near Mansfield..I do not have their info anymore. How did you get to know them?

    1. I was thinking of Dee Best.

      Bonnie and Merle were at one of the firewalks. I’m fairly sure that’s where we first met. I don’t think I have his contact information any more, but I’ll keep an eye our for it.

  28. Hello – I will be assisting with a solstice one day retreat here in Erie so we will not be able to make the firewalk. I look forward to hearing about it on this web site. And hopefully there will be more gatherings that we will be able to attend in the future.

    Dennis and I were first introduced to WLC by Bishop William Dye – he came to our spiritualist church as a guest speaker and of course invited us all to WLC. Dennis and I went – this was approx 1980 or so.. we became friends and had visited the grounds for approx 25 years. Rev. Bill married us and we went on to take ministerial classes with him where we (approx 3 yrs later) were ordained by him at WLC. We joined countless others in working the grounds to prep for events, served as speakers, board members ..just about anything we were asked to…. Bill had a great way of getting us to work and put out a good breakfast too! It is a light in our hearts and dearly miss all members of WLC.

    I have a lot of old programs that Bill had given us a few years before he passed. We met and enjoyed Al Law’s music and art. We have painting Al did for us as a wedding gift and I have a sketch he did as well.

    We remember Don and Charlene Anderson – enjoyed sharing quiet nights by their campfire and also had many visits from his black lab Zeke at our campsite.

    Kathy and Naomi Doty are also vital parts of WLC’s history. She was a great worker and speaker over the years.

    We have Quite a LOT of photos we took over the years – from meetings on the road, to camp sites, photos at the arena and the tent area… when the tent was up etc. I would be happy to help capture the history of WLC. During 20 years we came most weekends, stayed for weeks at a time and really enjoyed and were profoundly affected by the Light of all beings at WLC.

    We did work with Rev. Bill and countless others by doing vortex trips down the hill…. This was a ceremony created by Rev Bill and spirit entities that he channeled.

    He has 2 wonderful sons – who are married to beautiful hearted ladies … I know they have childern.. but I must admit I have lost touch with them and do not know any of the details. I hope they can add information here.

    well i got longer than intended.

    as Bill would close ….. i offer you H.E.L.P. – Harmony, Enlightenment Love and Peace

    Rev. Terri Shupenko

    1. Terri,

      Thanks for the great post! It’s loaded with good bits of history. I have been racking my brain trying to remeber what H.E.L.P. stood for.

      Your offer to help is warmly welcomed and appreciated. Ron and I are busy types and have uploaded a lot of what we have – just enough to prime the pump.

      Are you skilled with computers and able to scan what you have?

      If material is typewritten we may be able to convert it to electronic text so people can search on it. Otherwise we’ll have to wait unti it can be transcribed. Just having access to it will be a great help.

      With a couple more volunteers we can begin to thing about how to organize the site by differnt topics.

      Thanks again,

      – Jeff

  29. More people are learning about the Firewalk..Deb, Joseph Cecil, Maryanne McClellan, Alice & Austin Chipps..
    if you can think of anymore people..let us know in this chat room..need addresses too.

    1. I’m having fun imaging what everyone looks like today and will enjoy visiting again.

      Have you heard from Dee, Bonnie, or Merle? I might have a phone number if you need it.

    2. Does any one remember the year or date that the local franklin paper published the article on firewalking?? If I can get a date,I can get a copy, we have the archives here at the library.

  30. Ron,

    How did you get your gravatar image so small? I’d like to make mine less pronounced too.

    To Everyone:

    Gravtar (http://en.gravatar.com/) is a site that allows you to add a photo which can be automatically added to your posts and replies on most blog posts. If you are going to want to post here, consider setting up a picture of yourself, or a favorite icon you would like to appear with your text.

  31. Yesterday Ron ConiAnn, and I each received packages from Shirley and Melodie containing pages and photos related to WLC. Thanks to both!

    Shirley’s had information about Aprocee which included Don Anderson’s “House of Aprocee,” photos, and additional material related to St, Germain and Zecharia Sitchin.

    Melodie’s is a thick stack of transcribed readings and communications from numerous entities.

    If someone wants to create a topic on either material, please send a note to me with an initial statement about the subject and it’s history. I’ll be happy to copy it to a main page so we can talk about it there.

    – Jeff

  32. Sierra,

    It sounds like there will be a full class. Right now it looks like we’ll be able to make it. The labyrynth and pyramid sound like places that will be good to experience. It’s going to be good to see you again!

    – Jeff

  33. 40+ people have responded to Firewalk invitation..being held at home of Shirley Baum
    June 23, 2012..join us if you can..Visit Warren Light Center Grounds on Sunday June 24, 2012.
    after Christ Light Meditation at Shirley’s Heaven in the Woods..spiral labyrynth.
    Looking forward to being with alot of old friends and new. Sierra

    1. Hi Sierra – welcome to the site – hopefully you will be putting up more information as time goes on. I am looking forward to coming up to Western PA for the firewalk and seeing old acquaintances as well as meeting new ones.

    2. Sierra, Dee and Jim are in the Grove City area. Jim works at Sears. I talked to Jim this morn6-8-12 and told him about the reunion and walk. If you atre in the area Tue-Fri afternoons stop i at Franklin public lib,I”m there. Huggs

      1. Deb, I did not know Dee(Best) and Jim were still in the area..I wish I had their
        address I could send them info..even an e mail address..thanks for telling them
        about the events..I hope they decide to be with us. Sierra

    3. Hi Sierra, So glad I found some of our WLC people. Is the center still in operation? I miss all of you guys so much. I remarried in 2010 Fred passed in 2006. I married Patrick Gorman IN 2010. He is wonderful…and wants me to re-connect to the life I had doing my spiritual work once again. If it had not been for Bishop “Bill” I wouldn’t have started my own Universal New Hope Church of Bradford. It was in non function mode until more recent times. I moved to Columbus PA (outside Corry PA)and ill b starting the church up once more when we find a building. I have a wonderful core group of about 20 people and it is all their dreams to have the church reopen. Please call when you get a chance or email me At ungushka@yahoo.com Blessings and love Rev. Charlene Gorman

  34. Shirley,

    ConiAnn and I are delighted the firewalk is being held and looking forward to attending. We’ve been away too long.

    If you woult like to write a blog post, Ron or I can create an account for you. If that’s too much work and you would still like to see one, just send it to either of us. We have your e-mail address and can send you ours.

    Thanks so much for hosting the firewalk.

    – Jeff

  35. Hello,
    I would love to talk with you. I am part of the FIREWALK for June 23rd. And I would love to invite any Members of WARREN LIGHT CENTER to attend. Please e-mail me.

  36. Hi I am Ronald Headley – I do not remember exactly when I was at Warren LIght Center the first time. – I believe I may have gone up there to meet up with Bob Lawrence and Rev. Francis Warfield – probably would have been around 1972 or 1973. At that time I was living in Cleveland Heights Ohio – I was involved with several groups including OSPH (Ohio Society for Professional Hypnosis), Akron Unity, Memorial Spiritual Christian Church, TCSPR (Trumbull County Society for Psychic Research) and an number of other groups. Early on I began friends with Don and Charline Anderson, Joseph and Anna Cecil, Bill and Angie Dye, John and Ina Gallagher, Sol Lewis and many other “regulars” at WLC. I attended a number of summer solstice gatherings as well as some of the spring and fall equinox gatherings and even a few of the winter solstice gatherings. From the early 1970s until 1987 I would go to WLC several times a year, sometimes for conferences and gatherings, sometimes “off season” when only Don & Charline where there and or Joseph & Anna. Sometimes I would stay for a day or two and other times I would stop by while passing through western PA. In 1987 I relocated to Waynesville NC and did come back to WLC a couple of times for the summer solstice gathering. In 1992 I again relocated to Central KY where I presently am. I returned to WLC several times after the move to KY. In recent years I have become an Internet Marketer and even more recently a Web Site designer. The “Universe” woke me up early one morning and said do this site so here it is. If anyone has photos, mailings, programs, or other material from WLC contact me and I will get this information up here on the website – my particular interest at least right now are the program booklets, that were printed and sent out to people on the WLC mailing list. Of course I am interested in getting in contact with WLC attendees.

  37. Site Addition:

    I’ve added a Google search link for “Warren Light Center” on the right side of the screen.

    You’ll find it listed under “Blogroll”.

    There were 433 listings of “Warren Light Center” on 4 MAy 2012. You can use them to search for people who you many want to contact.

    So, please look through the seach and make a reply to this post with any you think are worthy.

    Also: If you have any web site links you want added, please leave reply here. If the editors approve, we can add the links.

  38. I may as well get started.

    My name is Jeff Limpert. ConiAnn and I heard about WLC from Ron since the 70’s and finally made it up there in the late 80’s. It was a life changing experience that I’ll always be grateful for.

    My interests are in helping with the web site and have a couple of pamphlets we’ll try to get scanned soon.

    I’ll check the chatter box section for notes, if anyone wants to start a conversation.

    – Jeff